Rogue01

Developers are not really interested in making apps for a platform that no one is interested in buying or using.  AR/VR has never been popular or something that consumers feel they need.  3DTV bombed because people did not even want to wear glasses, let alone big heavy goggles.  And consumers are not spending $3500 on a product they don't 'need' in their life.  Apple did not solve any problems with this device.  They are better off just killing it and putting the resources to improving iOS, macOS and iPadOS, the systems that consumers actually use and upgrade over time.

Even watchOS is dead and developers have pretty much abandoned that platform.  The last 5 versions of the watch were uneventful with very little to offer.  I don't even wear my Watch 5 anymore.  Just sits on a charger.  Has some cool fitness apps, but much easier to just look at my phone.

Some may not agree, but that is the reality of it.  Any time I have been at an Apple Store, people are looking at phones and Macs.  They don't even look at the Vision Pro because it is so stupidly expensive, and they don't have a need for it.

Finally an update to AppleTV that is worth getting excited for.  An AV receiver will do a much better job with the sound processing than the AppleTV.  I did not realize the AppleTV wasn't already doing the passthrough over HDMI for a receiver to handle the processing.

Siri and improved Apple AI reminds me of AirPower.  Schiller - we can do this.  Schiller a year later - no we can't.  I am not holding my breath for Siri.  I rarely use it because it isn't very reliable, and the response is usually the same thing, let me see what I can find on the internet.  I can do that myself and get a better response.  Apple has had 14 years to fix Siri, and hasn't done it yet.

coolfactor said:

Rogue01 said:

So it is Aqua, without any color, from 2000.

With iOS 7, the heavy transparency was awful because everything blended over itself and over the next few iOS updates, the transparency was significantly reduced so you could actually see what you were doing without elements from behind bleeding into everything else.  I imagine the same will occur again.  The screenshot above showing the Home Screen looks just like iOS 18, with a few minor tweaks to the icons.  Not that much of a change.  Not exactly a 'radical' design change as all the websites claimed.

So many negative comments being posted about Liquid Glass based on pictures and video demos. Once you start to use Liquid Glass, you'll see it's way beyond Aqua (and Vista). Interface elements have physical attributes that extend way beyond just a visual appearance.

Heavy use of transparency is not a good design language.  They tried it with Aqua and iOS 7, and Windows tried it with Aero with Vista and 7.  The end result was major changes to reduce the transparency heavily so things would not bleed through other windows making things difficult to read, etc.  

saarek said:

6 years is a fair timeline. They haven’t screwed over Intel users like they did with the PPC transition and Snow Leopard.

I came back to say the same thing.  PowerPC got Tiger and Leopard, and that was it.  The last PowerPC iMac, the iMac (iSight) in late 2005, only got Tiger and Leopard and that was it.  Cut off with Snow Leopard, 3 years after the transition to Intel.  But Apple finished the Intel transition to all Macs in 270 days, not 3 1/2 years for Apple Silicon.  At least Intel Macs, which there were probably far more in circulation in 2020 than PowerPC Macs in 2005, got Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma, Sequoia, and now Tahoe.  Granted, I would rather have a more robust macOS with a two year release cycle than this fast pace one year cycle and more bugs in the OS.  We still have a lot of Intel Macs at work that will run macOS 26, so those won't be replaced any time soon.